Two hosts unpack Roy Tran's analysis of AI transformation in HR leadership. Why 95 percent of enterprise AI pilots fail to reach full production. What pilot purgatory looks like from the inside. Why the CHRO is the only person in the building positioned to lead the 70 percent that actually determines whether the transformation works.
This conversation covers the 10/20/70 model, the rise of work slop, the 3 Cs framework, and what Monday morning looks like when philosophy meets legacy IT infrastructure.
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In this episode
00:51 — The November 2025 tipping point: when AI-generated content surpassed human content on the internet, and what that crossing looks like inside organizations
02:24 — Pilot purgatory: why 42 percent of businesses scrapped most of their AI initiatives in 2025, up from 17 percent the year before
04:26 — The 10/20/70 model: only 10 percent of AI transformation value comes from the algorithm. The other 70 percent is HR's work
06:00 — Beyond the Title: why the CHRO must evolve from policy steward to workforce architect
07:53 — Glass boxes versus black boxes: what data governance actually means when AI is making decisions about people
11:01 — The 3 Cs: Commitment, Crisis, and Conflict — three categories where AI must never have the final word
13:08 — The Human Premium: why physical presence and human attention have become the rarest assets in the enterprise
15:28 — Monday morning actions: three concrete steps to move an organization out of pilot purgatory before the week is out
18:14 — The final provocation: will the AI era expose the leaders who were only ever good at administration?
Show notes
Essay: The Algorithm Is the Easy Part · Human Code
Roy Tran writes on leadership, organizational design, and what it means to lead people in systems shaped by machines. Essays and longer reflections are published on Substack. Shorter observations on LinkedIn.
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